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Offline Ian

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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2011, 01:23:17 PM »
the beads i layed looked great.  a real stack of coins.  i had no penetration because the welder was set way way way to low.  i had taken an entire week off from work to weld on my jeep.  so i was trying to do too much too quick. 

(my welder has since welded 3/8" to 1/2" or thicker without being turned up all of the way)
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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2011, 02:38:57 PM »
Should be ordering one tonight  :woot:
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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2011, 04:44:34 PM »
Just ordered one of these:
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/mig/product.php?model=M00245
Now to get a good size tank for Argon/CO2 while waiting for it to ship so I'm ready to start practicing as soon as I get it. Anyone have a tank size they would recommend for a hobby/home use welding setup so I'm not going to get it filled all the time, but don't have a monster tank to carry around?
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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2011, 03:25:32 PM »
Got about 10 mins in the garage this weekend... Was able to figure out what I'm doing for steering and ordered a double ended steering arm for the passenger side and a springless cap for the driver side. Going to run 3/4" rod ends on the drag link and the stock tie rod for now setup in a crossover steering setup. Once I add a hydro ram I'll put it on the back side of the double ended ram so it's completely protected (and with the low frame height I'm running, I don't have room for it in the front anyway   ) Should be ordering some more parts tomorrow and then get back to working on this thing...
I'm running a billet pitman arm that is completely flat and has a 5/8" fine thread hole in it. Got it with the used NASCAR steering box I picked up off ebay. It's exactly 5" from center to center, so I'm having the front of the arm drilled 5" from the kingpin center to match throw and tapping it to use the same 5/8" fine thread. I'll run the rod end under the arm (hoping not to have to notch the frame for clearance) and for now leave the stock under knuckle from the D60 to maintain clearance until I figure out if I want to do OTK with TRE's or switch eveything to rod ends. With it also being a semi/full time DD possibly I'm leaning toward leaving TRE's for the lower joints so the road grime doesn't kill them too quickly. Have to move my tracbar mount on the axle now that I'm not going with the inverted T steering, but that should actually help out the clearance issues I have in the front with everything stacked together so closely.
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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2011, 07:47:00 AM »

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clean up the metal about 2-3 inches from where you are actually gonna weld, spray with some brake clean
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I'll stay out of the welding bit because I do my best with my 110 unit and feel that I've learned the limitations of that machine for specific jobs.

My only $0.02 would be a word of caution for the advise above.  I know it can be used effectively, but I used to spray that stuff everywhere when cleaning off oil and grease prior to welding and then I saw a post here (thanks to Posi .. I believe) so I just thought I would post it up again.  Definitely made me think twice and changed the way I prep.

http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm

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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2011, 10:22:43 AM »

clean up the metal about 2-3 inches from where you are actually gonna weld, spray with some brake clean
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I'll stay out of the welding bit because I do my best with my 110 unit and feel that I've learned the limitations of that machine for specific jobs.

My only $0.02 would be a word of caution for the advise above.  I know it can be used effectively, but I used to spray that stuff everywhere when cleaning off oil and grease prior to welding and then I saw a post here (thanks to Posi .. I believe) so I just thought I would post it up again.  Definitely made me think twice and changed the way I prep.

http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm

K
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That's why I NEVER spray ANY kind of chemical cleaning agent on an area I'm going to weld. I prefer to stay alive...
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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2011, 10:33:31 AM »
there is a difference between chlorinated and  non-chlorinated break cleaner.

i don't like to see a chlorinated can in the shop for that reason.

chlorinated break cleaner works better IMHO though.
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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2011, 09:29:59 AM »
Thanks Kent, I don't recall seeing that, I suppose I am fairly lucky to be alive. With that said, the residual for brake clean can't be more than a couple minutes, my general practice it to spray then wipe and ensure the area is dry, this was done not for the reasons in your link, but rather simply to ensure a clean working field, also waiting a couple minutes to allow for any residual chemical to disipate into the atmosphere.

Again thanks for re-posting that, perhaps I need to rethink my methods.
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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2011, 12:42:30 PM »
This build it looking pretty awesome. 8)

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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2011, 07:00:05 PM »
Ordered up some rear coilover brackets today. I like the genright/poly setup, but not the price. Got a quote from diybeadlocks on Pirate for a much better price, and then found these: http://davescustoms4wd.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=DCU&Product_Code=RST-1&Category_Code=SHOCK
Thought I'd throw it up here for anyone looking to not backhalf their frame but still run coilovers. Ruff stuff has the lower mounts like the other kits for $24 so for just over $110 you can have the whole kit that Genright/Poly charge $250-300 for. I still went with diybeadlocks as he came pretty close to that price, and I had to order other stuff from him anyway, but this is definitely a cheaper deal than I've seen anywhere for brackets like these.  8)
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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2011, 08:04:52 PM »
Ordered up some rear coilover brackets today. I like the genright/poly setup, but not the price. Got a quote from diybeadlocks on Pirate for a much better price, and then found these: http://davescustoms4wd.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=DCU&Product_Code=RST-1&Category_Code=SHOCK
Thought I'd throw it up here for anyone looking to not backhalf their frame but still run coilovers. Ruff stuff has the lower mounts like the other kits for $24 so for just over $110 you can have the whole kit
that Genright/Poly charge $250-300 for. I still went with diybeadlocks as he came pretty close to that
price, and I had to order other stuff from him anyway, but this is definitely a cheaper deal than I've seen anywhere for brackets like these.  8)




Im gonna be running the ruff stuff upper and lower mounts....hopefully they work
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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2011, 09:25:21 AM »
i backhalfed the frame with an atx customs kit.  it was 125 and i used less than $50 worth of 2x3 and sold the extra from the full stick i bought.  i probably used $20 worth of tube to make the shock hoops.
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60 w/ minor bling 4.56, 14b ff rear w/detriot 4.56, atlas 2speed 5.0 4 custom link rear and 3link front, 110" wheelbase, pcs full hydro, fox 2.5's,  and 42" Irok stikies... and no clue

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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2011, 11:37:50 AM »

clean up the metal about 2-3 inches from where you are actually gonna weld, spray with some brake clean

I'll stay out of the welding bit because I do my best with my 110 unit and feel that I've learned the limitations of that machine for specific jobs.

My only $0.02 would be a word of caution for the advise above.  I know it can be used effectively, but I used to spray that stuff everywhere when cleaning off oil and grease prior to welding and then I saw a post here (thanks to Posi .. I believe) so I just thought I would post it up again.  Definitely made me think twice and changed the way I prep.

http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm

K
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That's why I NEVER spray ANY kind of chemical cleaning agent on an area I'm going to weld. I prefer to stay alive...
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While it is bad to weld after having brake cleaned a part.  (I have been gassed by it before, I couldn't stop coughing for an hour.)  That guy was showing symptoms of zinc poisoning and not phosgene, probably from welding galvanized steel. 

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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2011, 11:58:34 AM »
i backhalfed the frame with an atx customs kit.  it was 125 and i used less than $50 worth of 2x3 and sold the extra from the full stick i bought.  i probably used $20 worth of tube to make the shock hoops.

I would have loved to back half the Jeep, but I need to keep my back seat for my 2 year old and my next one that's due in Oct. I really don't want a fuel cell right behind them, and the width of the atx kit won't work with a fully under the tub fuel tank. I'd also have to buy the cell/associated parts if I was going to backhalf and use a cell. I'm keeping mine a DD (or at least capable of it) in Mass too, so I  have a bunch of stuff to worry about I wouldn't have to if I made it a trail only rig. Believe me I was really contemplating the ATX kit for a really long time. If I hadn't found the brackets to french into the frame for way less than the other places charge for them, I probably would have done an ATX kit with a custom fuel cell/pump setup under the tub.
Custom fuel cell may still be an option if I can't push the 14 bolt back far enough into my dimpled stock tank to have a decent length driveshaft with my doubler. I'm looking at around 14-15" right now and I'm not sure if that's long enough for my 12" travel coilovers that are going in the rear.

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Re: 99 TJ one ton stretch/coilovers/doubler etc...
« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2011, 12:01:28 PM »
Anyone know the measurements from the body mounts on a TJ to the centerline of the axles on a stock wheelbase Jeep? I'm not sure how much stretch I got out of the front, and I'm curious as to how much I'll end up with in the rear using the stock tank with a clearance dimple. In the front the measurement I'm looking for is from the front edge of the foremost bodymount to the centerline, and in the rear it's the last under tub/outside frame mount to the centerline of the rear axle. Any help would be appreciated.
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