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garage move
« on: March 04, 2014, 01:02:32 AM »
So i recently started moving my workspace from my old shop to my house.Figured I would share my work. My garage is an attached 2 bay, 20'x24'.  Not exactly the best size workspace for my needs, but at the moment its going to have to work. It is attatched but the entrance is not directly into house so i don't have to worry about dust and smell.
The majority of the work i'll be doing will just be metal work, I don't plan to pull a vehicle in or expect to even be able to. heck if i could even get my truck into the garage to change oil i wouldn't be able to open the hood anyways. the ceilings are 8'. Walls are lath and plaster/browncoat.
Goals-
-start with mud and paint. Going to use an oil based exterior high gloss paint so if i happen to lean on it with a greasy hand i can easily wipe it off. It will also help with lighting. Pure white for the upper portion of the walls and a Hugger Orange for the bottom part. then paint the foundation black. all high gloss.

- Electrical, needed a subpanel in garage so had to upgrade the house first. had a 200Amp service done and a 100Amp panel installed in the garage.
I will also be putting 3Phase in the garage for some of my machinery. as well as a 75' extension cord in case i want to take my MIG into the backyard or even roll the TIG out into the driveway if i need to. Installing 4, 8 foot t-8 fixtures and 6, 4 footers. Thats 28 bulbs. I think its going to be enough. I want 0 blind spots and no shadowing. I'm sick of working in the dark.

I'm getting rid of as much open storage as possible, i hate how cluttered it looks.. so i'm not hanging a bunch of shelving on the walls, everything that can will be going into a cabinet. or under my workbenches.

-Plenty of wall plugs, dedicated workstation plugs, air, and lighting.

-HEAT, i'm still deciding between a forced hot water system or a ductless split. I may wait till the summer and just do it at my leisure, since the winter is almost over.
Hot water would require another circ pump and zone installed on the boiler, and proper plumbing installed.would have to leave it on so pipes dont freeze in winter.
ductless split would require a small hole in side of garage with a small condenser mounted outside. It would provide adequate heat and even AC in the summer but starts losing efficiency below 10* or so. can shut it off if not using it. no pipes to freeze.
still in the air on that.

-Floor treatment?

A few pictures.
This is the before. you can see the wall storage and how cluttered it is, that is all going.



moved everything to the center and got the walls prepped for paint.

Paint begins, white goes on first.

then orange primer

and orange.


and black

a picture of it during the daytime. The lines might look broken but i think its the way i took the picture.

and at night

I HATE PAINTING, i'm glad that part of the garage is finished.
after that was all set i made a trip to the old garage and brought some of the cabinets and tool boxes over.
had a little help from Will, he's been a lot of help during the project. unfortunately cannot trust him with a paintbrush haha.


Someday when i feel i need to i may paint the cabinets to match.

I built 4x4 frames to put under all the cabinets that way i could rest them up on top of the edge of the foundation and as close to the walls as possible. I also painted those. it raised them off the floor a bit and helps when sweeping around them.

After a majority of the large items are moved in(not yet organized) the place looks like this.

Hardly workable yet. Still need to move the flat chassis table and the bridgeport over. and have to do some work to get the benches to fit where i want them.
I moved my little lathe and it fits perfectly atop my old craftsman toolbox, so i decided to keep that instead of sell it.


At this point i opted against any type of floor treatment for a few reasons.

I'm not finished yet, I will take some more pictures. since this last posted photo was taken i have done quite a bit. The lights are all done and they are perfect. The phase converter is all mounted but not wired yet, and the bench has been moved to its new home. still waiting for a nice day to move the bridgeport.
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Re: garage move
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2014, 07:52:44 AM »
So 20 years till you get a wheelable rig?

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Re: garage move
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2014, 08:21:53 AM »
very nice Tony!
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Re: garage move
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2014, 10:47:45 AM »
I think you need more too boxes.   ;D
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Re: garage move
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2014, 06:20:09 AM »
Yes john you are correct.
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Re: garage move
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2014, 12:34:52 PM »
Looks great.  I am moving next week and will be losing my beloved 1800 sqft mantown basement/workshop.  Getting a 2 car garage that I will have to get creative with.  Everyone has probably seen this before, but if not, it is my inspiration for making use of the space you have.  If you haven't been on this guy's website before, it is definitely worth poking around.

http://12-gaugegarage.com/index.html

Fast forward video to 6:09 to see garage (although Jack Olsen's view during the first 6 minutes on one car doing it all is very transferable to the way many members view their Jeep DD/trail rig)
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/gC5-MoDUuRg" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/gC5-MoDUuRg</a>

« Last Edit: June 24, 2014, 12:55:23 PM by ayoung »

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Re: garage move
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2014, 08:45:49 AM »
adam that is fantastic, thanks for sharing. 
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Re: garage move
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2014, 05:59:21 PM »
yes i've seen that on garage journal. its not bad at all. good use of space. cost a lot of money to outfit a shop like that. cabinets are not cheap. Ive spent a couple grand myself just on what I have for cabinets, and most have been used or bought at discount because they were damaged, and you can never have enough storage.
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Re: garage move
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2014, 06:03:02 PM »
yes i've seen that on garage journal. its not bad at all. good use of space. cost a lot of money to outfit a shop like that. cabinets are not cheap. Ive spent a couple grand myself just on what I have for cabinets, and most have been used or bought at discount because they were damaged, and you can never have enough storage.

Also, an update, since i havent in a while, The bridgeport is in place. got a few projects going right now but its close to 100% i would say about 85% now.i'll get pictures soon
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Re: garage move
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2014, 07:27:15 PM »
yes i've seen that on garage journal. its not bad at all. good use of space. cost a lot of money to outfit a shop like that. cabinets are not cheap. Ive spent a couple grand myself just on what I have for cabinets, and most have been used or bought at discount because they were damaged, and you can never have enough storage.


Yep, that is where I saw it first.  If I remember correctly, he didn't spend too too much money on everything.  I believe he got it all second hand and did a lot of cutting and welding to get all the cabinets the way he wanted.  Definitely post pictures when you get the chance.

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Re: garage move
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2014, 12:19:58 AM »
figured its time for an update and wanted to get some input on my HEATING options.

lighting- the garage is fully wired now, and FULLY lit. with 4 8' T8 flourecent fixtures and 6-4' T8 fixtures. my goal was no shadows when i work. and with a total of 28 T8 bulbs in play I accomplished that goal without a hitch. 4 of the 4' fixtures are wall mounted above the garage doors and the rest are spaced on the ceiling. I love the lighting.

electrical- 3Phase generator is wired to the bridgeport, the lathe has its own breaker, got a 75' 220 50amp extension cord so i can drag the welder or plasma outside when needed. plenty of outlets everywhere.

AIR- 3/4" copper piped along ceiling to two air hose reels with oilers and water separators. I mounted the larger hose reel near the door so i can drag it out into the yard. and the other mounted under the workbench.
compressor is temporary mounted inside but haven plans to build a shed for it outside.

HEAT-
here are my options as of now.

quick and easy route.
Window mounted pellet stove. Its my cheapest option, quickest install time, and least amount of labor to install. but its about the crudest of my options since woodstove is out of the question for space reasons. factor in lugging and buying pellets. probably the most offensive option too because i'll have to stare at the unit hanging out of the window.

next route would be a mitsubishi split. mount a condenser box outside behind the garage, wall mount heater unit which would provide heat and AC. its my most expensive option up front at around $2000 for the unit with my own install. and would up my electric bill a bit. Peabody is about the cheapest electric costs in the state too. in some cases cheaper than heating with gas. so i'm leaning tis way.

Modine water heater unit.
Less offensive to install because i don't have to look at a condenser outside. cheaper than the mitsu split, but most labor intensive for me considering i need to install a new zone on my boiler, would have to completely drain my heating system to do so. and would need to run glycol in the system or leave it on to keep from freezing out there. also would go through more oil during the winter. currently i last the winter on one fillup.
Price wise about half of the mitsu split.

Im not sure the route i'm going to go yet for heat, i am going to try and have something before Jan though.
What do you guys think about those options?





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Re: garage move
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2014, 08:00:34 AM »
Also consider a pellet stove would also take up floor space which can be at a premium in a 2 car garage.  Why not just get a propane speed heater?  Do you have gas service to the house, a small ceiling mounted heater would not occupy floor space. 

The mitsubishi split units are great we puttwo in at my parents house (ac only.) Sanyo also makes a similar unit that is very reasonably priced. the condensor is a hair larger but just as efficient I am just not sure if they have a unit that is both heat and AC.

Outside of charging the line set, stupid simple install.
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Re: garage move
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2014, 08:49:53 AM »
the pellet stove actually mounts in the window so it wouldnt take up floor space. but at this time the split is looking like my best option but just hard to drop the $$ for heat for a garage.
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Re: garage move
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2014, 09:37:42 AM »
Oh ok, when you typed window, for some reason I was thinking exausting through the window with a metal flange.  How well insulated in your garage?
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Re: garage move
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2014, 09:53:44 AM »
right now. nothing in the ceiling, minimum in the walls. only thing i have going for me is the ceilings are 8'
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