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Offline jwebb1998

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welder + welding questions
« on: March 25, 2015, 10:37:06 AM »
Anyone familiar with a millermatic 211.  My dad bought one probably a year ago now and it still.hasn even been plugged in.  Hes been working on a yj in his garage for 10 years?  I think i need to give him a push or a shove to gwt him going.  Is it hard to learn how to work with this welder? 

If he doesnt start to use it i just might have to try to build my own bumper.

I know he should probably take some classes, but im a hands on, trial and error guy who throws out instructions as soon as i open the box. :woot:

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Re: welder + welding questions
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2015, 11:39:52 AM »
Best Welder in the $500-$1200 range of welders, which this is the top of that number.  Ian has one and I used it when I SAS my pick up, it is very durable and versitile.  Not sure what the duty cycle is off hand, but it will lay beads in 3/16-1/4 " material all day long with out effort.  I liked it so much, I went out and bought a miller 180 which is the same welder but with out the 110 option.  I personally prefer not to use the auto-set option, but I have started using it on my 180 and it's actually pretty good.

No classes needed for Mig welding, monkey weldingis what we called it at my Dads shop... so easy a monkey can do it.

here are some very basic instructions to get you started.

-Follow the welders instructiuons for gas per matierial and volumn
-Prepping the welding surface is a must
-Practice on some coupons or junk steel in a guage that you will be normally welding
-Your weld should sound like a consistant egg frying sound
-Take your time


Unless you plan on doing body work, I'd recommend setting it up with .030 wire and a 75-25% gas mix.
Dad always said "If it has boobs or spark plugs it will be fun AND will cause you problems."

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Re: welder + welding questions
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2015, 01:50:16 PM »
yes, get a bottle of 75-25 aka C25. Don't mess with flux core it will just increase your learning curve and even when it comes out good its still shyt.
Your on the right path. You already have a Miller, so thoughts of someday getting a real welder won't always be haunting your dreams.
Get a good hood and some gloves. some scrap metal and point and shoot.
consistant sounding weld and watch the bead lay out behind the arc and you will quickly learn what it should and shouldnt look like.
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Re: welder + welding questions
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2015, 09:47:43 AM »
Get some extra tips. And if the wire gets stuck, take the tip to the bench grinder instead of immediately replacing it.

Learn about grounding and how to be safe. You don't want to become the ground.
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Re: welder + welding questions
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2015, 03:54:00 PM »
everything these guys said.  i love my 211. it has the ability to switch from 110 to 220v.   i think i know 4 club members who have it. 

your welder has 'autoset'. i'd recommend using it at first for sure. 

start with .030 wire.  i use it 95% of the time or more.

watch a couple youtube videos and get some scrap metal.

i recommend a really good helmet too.  half the time i weld i'm under something or at a weird angle and that is where a better helmet pays off.  you will want an autodark helmet imho. i have a real nice miller helmet and i made sure to get one with the controls internal not external.  i'm under stuff half the time and i didn't want to break off an important knob.

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Re: welder + welding questions
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2015, 07:44:56 PM »
i have a nice hood for sale if your interested. auto darkening speedglas
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Re: welder + welding questions
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2015, 09:14:06 PM »
I'm FAR from a good welder, but all the advise in this thread is solid and I have nothing else to contribute.  However, I use a plain-Jane Jackson helmet and it works great but for quick tack welds I really long for a nice auto darkening helmet.  Seriously think about Tony's deal.
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2015, 10:03:06 PM »
If your interested Tim give mE a shout.
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Re: welder + welding questions
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2015, 07:33:39 AM »
I'd stay away from those millermatic thing-a-ma-jigs they're a piece of junk.
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Re: welder + welding questions
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2015, 08:20:09 AM »
However, I use a plain-Jane Jackson helmet and it works great but for quick tack welds I really long for a nice auto darkening helmet.  Seriously think about Tony's deal.
I will admit, one of my bad habits. I learned to weld before auto darkening helmets and I always tack stuff without a helmet.  I usually just turn my head and close my eyes.. Can't wait for the melanoma's to pepper my face.
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Re: welder + welding questions
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2015, 05:58:41 AM »
Lot of great tips, thanks guys.  Looks like my dad did his homework before he bought his welder, i didnt realize it wad such a popular welder(for everyone but jerry).

Ill be sure to pass along some of this info.

Thanks, J

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Re: welder + welding questions
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2015, 08:44:56 AM »
It was a sad attempt at humor.. I own one as well. Couldn't be more happy with it.
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