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August 04, 2007, 08:47:09 PM »
88 MJ, 4.0, AW4, yadda yadda...not stock, but the brakes are.
I cant get the passanger side front to bleed. The drivers side will just fine, but nothing from the passanger side. I thought there was a clog, so I took a bicycle pump, and pumped air through the line. I did this at BOTH ends. I took the rubber line off at the passy side, and pumped air up to the master...which bubbled. I tried to bleed...nothing. Then I took the line dirrectly out of the master, and pumped air through there, and it went just fine. I hooked the line back up to the master, got a few bubbles, then nothing. I've tried the master cylinder from my parts XJ, didnt work. I bench bled the thing...still wouldnt work. My next thought is the splitter that the master leads into...but if I can get air through it, then why cant I get fluid through it? Clog? Is there a valve in there that can go bad?
The front flex lines, calipers, pads, and rotors are very new. The rear brakes are 100% brand new from the backing plates to the drums.
I dont know what to do. Any ideas???
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Re: brake bleeding canundrum
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August 05, 2007, 01:00:32 AM »
if you unbolt the line to the right front caliper and press the brakes, does fluid come out? It sounds like maybe a stuck bleader if it does. Are those calipers remaned? Get some raybesto's calipers in there if you have a problem with it, or one from a parts jeep.
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Re: brake bleeding canundrum
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August 05, 2007, 11:48:33 AM »
reman calipers are like 17$ from autozone with a lifetime guarentee. If you suspect them you might as well get new ones and never have to buy them again.
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I just bought new ones from autozone for $17. These are the ones that are giving me trouble. I will try the old ones and see if those work.
I better get this fixed soon. I want to make it to NH on the 11th.
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Re: brake bleeding canundrum
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Quote from: Twisty on August 05, 2007, 12:58:23 PM
I just bought new ones from autozone for $17.
Thats your problem.. the cheap japanese calipers may have a life time warranty, but they are crap. they are made with substandard parts. go to NAPA and get the premium calipers. they will cost a bit more, but when it comes to stopping and steering, I would prefer not to have to question my equipment.
sounds like the wheel cylinder is junk, new calipers for you.
If you only want to spend $17, get a good caliper rebuild kit and rebuild your old ones.
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like I said, raybestos is the way to go.
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The bleeders are not restricting flow. I used a bike pump to push air through and it blew right out. The wheel cylinders are new. I will look into getting some new calipers. I might also try to vaccume bleed the thing.
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dont buy the vaccume thing, It is better to bleed your brakes the regular way with two people. Go tell your brother to help you out.
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I don't think they make/rebuild calipers for all my braking components I use Bendix.
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August 06, 2007, 10:30:08 AM »
my autozone brake calipers work awesome, never had an issue with them, and quite easy to change should they ever develop a problem
well worth the 18 bucks in my opinion
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i love when people say autozone stuff is crap.
everybody knows that the only good products in the world are american made. i mean look at the prime examples of american quality, toyota, samsung, nissan. sony, . . . . . . . . .
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chrome repeatedly tells me that Ford Superduty balljoints are awesome
did you fix this yet Tim?
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I am so sorry, you are 100% correct... I understand you installed two or three calipers and they worked for you, I worked at a brake shop and I've installed way more than that and about 25% were junk, but obviously your right..
Regardless, Good luck with it Twisty
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Quote from: jps4jeep on August 06, 2007, 02:29:06 PM
I am so sorry, you are 100% correct... I understand you installed
two or three calipers
and they worked for you, I worked at a brake shop and I've installed way more than that and about 25% were junk, but obviously your right..
umm, i have installed 4 of them (on my personal vehicle) and never had an issue
and i have watched them installed on 4 other vehicles, and yes i have seen one bad one, and yes we brought it back and they give us another for free
i would not argue that they are the best calipers out there, but they are cheap and work fine
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