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« on: March 23, 2011, 03:11:53 PM »

Looking for a plasma cutter. Something that can cut 1/4" cleanly and easily. Not set on any brand in particular, just looking for something to speed up making brackets for my Jeep. Have cash or will trade Jeep parts/cash for it.
I have the following available now
Black TJ fenders off a 99
AX 15 from 99 (no bell housing and sometimes slips out of 1st)
4.0 from 97 TJ (not running -I think it blew a head gasket)

Will have the following available in the next couple of weeks
Factory tan hardtop off 02 TJ
Factory Patriot blue full doors off 02 TJ.

I can get pics of any of the listed items. I have other TJ parts available, let me know what you are looking for and I'll get back to you if I have it.
I'm located in Springfield, MA but willing to travel
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2011, 03:16:24 PM »

good plasma cutters are expensive.  a new one to cut 1/4"  is $1500ish+

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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 06:37:30 AM »

check out longevity plasma cutters. they are a good cheap machine. i have used one several times and would recommend them. if you are running a fab shop this would not be the machine for you but for the home hobbist they are a good machine.

google it
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2011, 07:18:56 AM »

check out longevity plasma cutters. they are a good cheap machine. i have used one several times and would recommend them. if you are running a fab shop this would not be the machine for you but for the home hobbist they are a good machine.

google it

I checked those out and by the time you get to one that will actually work, you are within a few hundred of a Hypertherm 30 or Thermal Dynamics 42. Both of which will cut 1/4 on 220v. Even with their Pirate "sale" prices they are out of the 60 amp versions and to get the 80 amp ones they want almost $600. A brand new Thermal Dynamics 42 is about $900. Everlast ones are even more expensive than that. Just looking to see what is out there for available machines before I decide to spend a couple hundred trying out an ebay machine or bite the bullet and get a new machine.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2011, 07:44:12 AM »

check out longevity plasma cutters. they are a good cheap machine. i have used one several times and would recommend them. if you are running a fab shop this would not be the machine for you but for the home hobbist they are a good machine.

google it

I checked those out and by the time you get to one that will actually work, you are within a few hundred of a Hypertherm 30 or Thermal Dynamics 42. Both of which will cut 1/4 on 220v. Even with their Pirate "sale" prices they are out of the 60 amp versions and to get the 80 amp ones they want almost $600. A brand new Thermal Dynamics 42 is about $900. Everlast ones are even more expensive than that. Just looking to see what is out there for available machines before I decide to spend a couple hundred trying out an ebay machine or bite the bullet and get a new machine.

i have no idea what you mean by "by the time you get one that works"??  i personnally know 4 people who own these machines with no issues what so ever with them. i bet you are yet another guy who believes everything they read on the intraweb Roll Eyes

do what ever you want. i could care less Roll Eyes  but i seriously doubt somebody is going to trade your broken junk for their good working plasma cutter. i was trying to be helpful

oh and fyi, you better check your pricing cause the products you posted are about double that of the longevity products:

http://www.amazon.com/Powermax-Manual-Plasma-Cutting-Machine/dp/B003I6J3VA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1300965859&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Dynamics-1-4200-Cutmaster-Plasma/dp/B004H237MU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1300965996&sr=1-1

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i have used this machine personnally, cuts 3/8" cleanly

longevity-inc ForceCut-40D

and my buddy just upgraded this machine
longevity-inc ForceCut-50D

for this machine to use on his plasma table
longevity-inc ForceCut-50i

LINKS ABOVE REMOVED 8/1/2013 PER LONGEVITY-INC REQUEST. -MITCH (you will have to do your own google search for product information. Thanks!)
like i said i was trying to be helpful.  



*oh and by the way if you are a pirate member and call longevity the pricing is better than what they post in their threads and they give you good deals on consumables and their warrantys are better than hypertherm and thermal dynamics but what do i know Roll Eyes


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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2011, 08:41:50 AM »

Not to get in an argument, but I did say "cash in hand" I'm not just trying to trade broken parts for a plasma. I just offered those if someone was interested in them.  Wink
As far as cleanly and quickly cutting 1/4 the majority of research I've done (over 10 hours on numerous sites. What can I say, I like to know what I'm getting...  Grin) in looking for a plasma the 40 amp mosfet doesn't seem to cut as well. The 60 amp longevity is out of stock. I PM'd on pirate and got a best price of $550 for the 80 amp Mosfet and $850 for the 60i. Plus having to pay for extra consumables. by the time I spend $550 on a unit I'd might rather buy a used unit for a few hundred more or get a new smaller unit that has what I'm looking for. The 50i would work, but by the time I spend $750 on a unit, what's the difference to $920 for the Thermal Dynamics. No where near double the price  Roll Eyes

Just trying to see what's out there. I still might get a longevity/everlast or ebay unit, I just was looking to see what else was out there around the same price range ($500-1100) Cool
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2011, 11:04:07 AM »

I agree with what jeepgod posted, I only have one friend that has a longevity plasma cutter, he uses it in his commercial shop (auto resto shop) as far as I know, he's had no issues with. Probably uses it as much as a garage hobbiest would. For the price it is not a bad unit.

My personal plasma is a miller, as is my welder, I personally would not purchase anything else, but this is my opinion base on 18years of almost trouble free service in my posession. Plus my local welding shop is a miller dealer so consumables and misc parts are readily accessable.
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2011, 11:06:24 AM »

Oh to addm my miller plasma is a 110 unit and will cut 3/16 just as nice as ians 220 hobart, it does struggle with 1/4 inch, but gets the job done... Little extra grinding goes a long way
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2011, 11:10:42 AM »

What model is your friend using? I think I might call longevity up this afternoon and see what they have to offer
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2011, 11:14:22 AM »

i own this plasma cutter http://www.hobartwelders.com/products/plasma/airforce625/
i like it, but its the only plasma i've ever used/owned.


 my only advice. if you want to fab in relation to this sport...you will want to be able to cut 1/4", if your plasma can't you will regret it.  
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2011, 11:15:16 AM »

I don't know offhand the exact model. I'll see him sat evening, i'll ask then unless you really need to know, i'll call him
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2011, 11:20:10 AM »

http://cgi.ebay.com/TORCHMATE-2x2-CNC-Plasma-Routing-and-Milling-System-/350450000845?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519872a3cd


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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2011, 11:32:03 AM »

http://cgi.ebay.com/TORCHMATE-2x2-CNC-Plasma-Routing-and-Milling-System-/350450000845?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519872a3cd


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If I had the funds for something like that I would absolutely love it! Although that doesn't include the plasma cutter itself.
Unfortunately that is more than half what I've spent on my Jeep including the purchase price/axles/coilovers/etc...
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2011, 11:37:09 AM »

give a man a fish feed him for a day, give a man a torchmate 2x2, feed him for a lifetime."
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2011, 12:49:17 PM »

my only advice. if you want to fab in relation to this sport...you will want to be able to cut 1/4", if your plasma can't you will regret it. 

Sorry but I disagree with this. while it is nice, for most hobbyists, it is a bit excessive. I will not argue that it is nice to have, but I don't think he would regret it. I think for most hobbyists, the ideal set up is to have a plasma capable of cutting 3/16 cleanly (and even this will require some grinding to make it ubber pretty), as for 1/4 inch you can source a cutting torch for a fraction of the cost, and the end cut result is not going to be that much different assuming you are skilled with a cutting torch.  I stated mine will cut 1/4 inch, I will clarify, the end results are not very pretty, I need to run a very large orifice tip and it is painfully long to do, and generally if I have to cut 1/4" I use a torch or I go to Ians.

What Ian paid for his plasma is an not normal, and even when he got it, it was broken with in 10 minutes, then come to find out, it had sat on a shelf somewhere for a number of years till it was sold, making the warranty work a PITA to get taken care of.  Most people can pay considerably less for a less powered plasma and get a full stocked oxyacetylene outfit for less than a larger plasma.
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