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« on: January 18, 2010, 10:13:09 PM »

okay my xjs floors are kinda bad with rot so before i start to try and fix it myself i just wanna see if i can get some good ideas on how to go about it i might be able to get my hands one a welder not sure so i dont know if im Censored outta luck with out one so i was wondering if theres any other way to fix it
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 10:30:11 PM »

plan A -
i like this cause its easy and quick and i've been feeling lazy lately.

plan B - http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1180167&parttype=12481&a=FRc1180167k1650362

you'll need to weld it, but this is pretty spiffy
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 11:35:51 PM »

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=847290
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 06:11:10 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2010, 08:04:52 AM »

I would need to see photos.  Issue is, it's a unit body, so you just can't cover the rust/rot with any old metal. you need to get in there and replace it.
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2010, 08:26:38 AM »

I would need to see photos.  Issue is, it's a unit body, so you just can't cover the rust/rot with any old metal. you need to get in there and replace it.
x2 as your structural integrity relies on a strong body so riveting is not a smart option either.  find welder or buy a cheap mig and weld them up.

You can rent one for a day but enough people on here have them and might be willing to burn the pans in. 

Post us some pics.....so we can see the extremities of your fugly floors Grin
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2010, 09:56:03 AM »

I'm glad whitexj asked, I will be doing my son's xj in the summer. f'in new england.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2010, 10:09:17 AM »

alright ill try to get some pictures up if i can figure out how
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2010, 10:56:58 AM »

i'll be doing my xj and my wifes xj...keep us posted on how you get this done, im curious as al heck.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2010, 01:13:38 PM »

i just ripped the carpet out, cut out the existing rot, took some sheet metal from the shop at school welded it in place of the rot with a 110 mig,  siliconed it to ensure it was sealed, and then herculined the interior with a gallon i got for 10 bucks off my roommate.  came out good enough more me, and it is still like that today and that was about 4 years ago.  you will get a lot more heat off the exhaust and the transmission inside the cab.
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2010, 07:21:27 PM »

i just ripped the carpet out, cut out the existing rot, took some sheet metal from the shop at school welded it in place of the rot with a 110 mig,  siliconed it to ensure it was sealed, and then herculined the interior with a gallon i got for 10 bucks off my roommate.  came out good enough more me, and it is still like that today and that was about 4 years ago.  you will get a lot more heat off the exhaust and the transmission inside the cab.

really, I remember your carpet catching on fire because the rot hole was above the muffler and then it got ripped out after a fire extinguisher was unloaded on it. IIRC the sheet metal came from some hillbilly town in pennsil-tucky and was half ass fixed in a home depot parking lot.
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2010, 04:21:48 PM »

lol that was the first "trail" fix from smashing my muffler/cat up on the floor which overheated the sh!t outta it, that fix was hilarious.  but after i got him i fixed it permanently through the above mentioned procedure.  now i dont have to listen to the wife complain of the fumes from burning carpet, but she does burn her foot every now and then when she is wearing flip flops  Grin



i think it was the hammer/pipe wrench combo that did the trick
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2010, 09:15:25 PM »

that was a McGruber Special  Grin

Good times, minus the whole catching on fire.
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2010, 04:05:05 AM »

You dont necisarily need to weld the panels in place. depending how bad it is.
Most body shops dont weld body panels in anymore its all glued with epoxy. there are a few brands out there but the 3M stuff i have used is amazing. expensive, but it works great. but the old fashioned way still works fine....(cut out old crap iinstall new and stitch weld into place.)
the nice thing about the glue is it eliminates some of the issues you run into when welding like how much sheet metal stretches and bends when its heated up.

Not to run the thread off topic but,
yes john/Adam that was an interesting day.......btw Adam..... you still have my C clamp dont you!?lol


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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2010, 11:59:08 AM »

You dont necisarily need to weld the panels in place. depending how bad it is.
Most body shops dont weld body panels in anymore its all glued with epoxy. there are a few brands out there but the 3M stuff i have used is amazing. expensive, but it works great. but the old fashioned way still works fine....(cut out old crap iinstall new and stitch weld into place.)
the nice thing about the glue is it eliminates some of the issues you run into when welding like how much sheet metal stretches and bends when its heated up.

Not to run the thread off topic but,
yes john/Adam that was an interesting day.......btw Adam..... you still have my C clamp dont you!?lol

I didnt have many problems with the sheet metal stretching etc, just did real small stitches at opposite sides to start then put a few more stitches in the middle and epoxied the rest of the seams.  seems to have worked okay?

and yes that was a great weekend, and i still appreciate the help from everyone fixing that...and yes tony i still have your C-clamp (i used it last weekend working on my Harley suspension), willing to ship it back to MA if you need it back  Grin
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